Should My Kids Get the Flu Vaccine 2017-2018?


This article just released on November 29, 2017 shows that the flu vaccine this year is NOT effective. If predictions are correct, looks like we’re in for a pretty bad flu season, with the most predominant circulating strain being the influenza A (H3N2) strain. And if you decided to go ahead and get the flu shot this year – BAD NEWS: the influenza A (H3N2) strain in the vaccine is NOT a good match with the circulating A (H3N2) strain. What does that mean? That the flu vaccine this year has only about a 10% efficacy rate.

I’ve kept the original blog post below for your information, but wanted to make sure everyone as the update to make a truly informed decision. And please, instead of heading into the flu season with fear, arm yourself with the  knowledge of how to use pediatrician-approved natural remedies to beat your child’s flu! Start with reading my 2 blogposts on Top Ways to Boost Your Child’s Immune System and Pediatrician-Approved Natural Remedies for the Flu.

And stay tuned for my online course, Everyday Holistic Pediatrics coming out any day now! I’m SO excited to teach you PRACTICAL and EASY pediatrician-approved ways to use homeopathy, herbs, acupressure points, essential oils and diet to help your child get through the cold/flu season naturally and so much more (colds, fever, cough, stomach flu, earache, sore throat, first aid and more!). Be sure to sign up for my newsletter to be notified as soon as it’s available!


To get the flu vaccine or not? That is the question…

Or at least, it’s a very common question in my office this time of year.

I believe that the decision to get the flu vaccine for your child, just like any other vaccine, is YOUR CHOICE as a parent, and it’s a very personal choice with many factors that have to be weighed. This decision must be made on an individual basis, taking into account the unique healthcare needs and concerns of your child.

**PLEASE NOTE: I update my post on the flu vaccine yearly to reflect the current flu season. This post is for the 2017-2018 winter flu season.**

What exactly is the flu?

Before we dive into the flu vaccine, let’s take a look at the flu itself.

Influenza, or the “flu”, is caused by any of a number of influenza viruses. There are several other non-influenza viruses that circulate during the winter and cause upper respiratory infections and influenza-like illnesses, but the “flu” refers to those illnesses actually caused by the influenza virus.

Symptoms of the flu can range anywhere from mild cold-like symptoms, to high fevers, chills, fatigue, sore throat, runny nose and cough, headache, body aches, and vomiting/diarrhea. However, it’s important to note that less than half of those infected with the influenza virus will actually develop flu symptoms, and most people will have a relatively mild illness. While there are certainly people who get very sick and have complications from influenza infection, the vast majority will not have an illness anywhere severe enough to even consider hospitalization. Most people who get the flu will recover within days to 2 weeks without any complications.

Patients who are more likely to have serious complications from the flu and be hospitalized are young children less than 2 years of age and adults who have associated risks, which include being over 65 years old, pregnancy, asthma, chronic lung or heart disease, diabetes, immunosuppression due to disease or medication, morbid obesity, and neurologic or neurodevelopmental disorders.

How “bad” will this year’s flu season be?

As we enter the flu season, it would be great to know 2 things – how “bad” will this year’s flu season be in the first place? And will the flu vaccine be effective in preventing this year’s flu anyway?

Researchers at the University of Chicago have developed a predictive model to try to forecast just how bad each flu season will be. Using this model, their prediction for a rough 2016-2017 flu season was accurate. They’ve used this same model to try to predict what our current flu season will bring. When asked what the 2017-2018 flu season has in store, senior researcher, Mercedes Pascual, PhD notes, “That’s the million-dollar question. Our analysis for this year showed that the virus is already changing in a significant way. We predict an outbreak that is above average but moderate, not severe, because last year was such a bad season.”

How effective is the flu vaccine?

According to the CDC’s vaccine effectiveness studies that have been performed yearly since the 2004-2005 flu seasons, the flu vaccine’s overall effectiveness has ranged from 10% in 2004-2005 to 60% in 2010-2011. This number varies quite a bit for different populations. The flu vaccine will only be effective if those people receiving the vaccine mount an appropriate immune response. While 97% of adults ages 18-64 years given the vaccine may show protective levels of antibody titers at 21 days after vaccination, the same isn’t necessarily true for children. At 10 days, the antibody response to the flu vaccine in kids under 9 years of age is found to be much lower. The low response in children under 9 years of age accounts for the recommendation that children 6 mos – 9 years who are receiving their first flu vaccine receive 2 doses of the flu vaccine approximately 1 month apart.

When we look at the data that’s actually out there, the numbers don’t seem encouraging. The Cochrane Library provides a database of systematic reviews of the scientific literature on a specific question, like – “Is the flu vaccine effective in preventing influenza in healthy adults?” A Cochrane review of 50 studies looking at this very question found that “in the relatively uncommon circumstance of vaccine matching the viral circulating strain and high circulation [italics added], 4% of unvaccinated people versus 1% of vaccinated people developed influenza symptoms.” The authors conclude that “influenza vaccines have a modest effect in reducing influenza symptoms and working days lost. There is no evidence that they affect complications, such as pneumonia, or transmission.” On the other hand, the flu vaccine was noted to cause “an estimated 1.6 additional cases of Guillain-Barre Syndrome per million vaccinations,” although “the harms evidence base is limited and the authors make the WARNING that “industry [READ: vaccine manufacturers] funded studies were published in more prestigious journals and cited more than other studies… The review showed that reliable evidence on influenza vaccine is thin but there is evidence of widespread manipulation of conclusions and spurious notoriety of the studies. The content and conclusions of this review should be interpreted in light of this finding.”

Another interesting study to note is a Canadian study that found patients who had received the flu vaccine in the 2008-2009 flu season had a higher risk of needing medical care for illness from the pandemic H1N1 flu during the 2009-2010 flu season. The editor cautions that this observational study doesn’t prove that there is a direct link between getting the flu vaccine and having a higher risk of contracting the flu the following year and is therefore not conclusive, but does note that “if the findings in the current study are real, however, they raise important questions about… the best way to prevent and control both types of influenza [seasonal and pandemic] in future.”

So where does that leave us? From what I can tell, if you choose to get the flu vaccine, AND it’s a good match for circulating influenza virus strains, then you may have a 3% chance of preventing the flu but not its complications, and a very small chance of developing an autoimmune complication (Guillain-Barre), and perhaps a small chance of having a higher risk of contracting a pandemic flu the following year. Hmmm…

Is this year’s flu vaccine a good match?

When we talk about a good “match, “we’re looking at the match of the flu strains that are in the flu vaccine compared with the strains that are circulating in the community. As you may be aware, the flu vaccine is made by trying to predict the 3 or 4 most prevalent flu strains that will be circulating the following year. Some years, none of the flu strains in the vaccine match the circulating flu strains. Other years, they have a better match. I have been closely monitoring the CDC’s Weekly U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report with weekly updates of national flu activity (which lags by 1-2 weeks), to see whether the flu vaccine is a good match this year.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, as of the week ending October 28,2017, influenza activity remained low throughout the United States so it’s too early yet to tell. But here are some of the facts we know so far:

The Influenza strains in this year’s flu vaccine are:

  • an A/Michigan/45/2015 (H1N1)pdm09-like virus
  • an A/Hong Kong/4801/2014 (H3N2)-like virus
  • a B/Brisbane/60/2008-like (B/Victoria lineage) virus
  • a B/Phuket/3073/2013-like (B/Yamagata lineage) virus (in quadrivalent vaccines only)

Of the respiratory specimens that have been tested as of October 28, 2017:

  • Only 2.9% of specimens received nationally tested positive for influenza, which means that many people tested with “flu-like” symptoms did not have influenza (“the flu”).
  • Of the specimens that tested positive for influenza, almost 70% were Influenza A with the majority being the Influenza A H3N2 Hong Kong subtype, and about 30% were Influenza B strains with the vast majority being the Influenza B/Yamagata subtype.
  • The majority (96.8%) of specimens that tested for Influenza A (H3N2) subtype were similar to the A/Hong Kong/4801/2014 strain in this year’s trivalent and quadrivalent flu vaccines.
  • All of the specimens that tested for Influenza A (H1N1)pdm09 subtype were similar to the A/Michigan/45/2015 in this year’s trivalent and quadrivalent flu vaccines.
  • All of the specimens that tested for Influenza B/Yamagata lineage subtype were similar to the B/Phuket/3073/2013 in this year’s quadrivalent flu vaccine only.
  • Only 1 specimen tested for Influenza B/Victoria lineage subtype, but did match the B/Brisbane/60/2008 in this year’s trivalent and quadrivalent flu vaccines. However, testing from last year’s circulating B/Victoria strains showed 2 subgroups with mutations that would make the vaccine ineffective.
  • Three human infections with a novel Influenza A (H1N2) viruses were reported in Colorado, Nebraska and Michigan – totally new swine flu strains – for which the vaccine would not be effective. Two infections were with influenza A(H3N2) variant (H3N2v) viruses and one infection was with an influenza A(H1N2) variant (H1N2v) virus. No ongoing human-t0-human transmission has been identified, but the CDC is keeping a close watch. No need to panic, though, it doesn’t look like we are heading back to the swine flu “epidemic” days.

What do all of these statistics mean?

Even though there is very little flu across the country, it does appear that this year’s flu vaccine is likely a good match to what will be the circulating influenza strains this winter.

So, should you or your child get the flu vaccine?

This is a tough question to answer, and a decision that only you can decide for yourself or your child. I typically recommend that patients with lung/heart disease or other serious chronic illness receive the vaccination. Apart from that, the decision really needs to be made on an individual basis. The flu vaccine is contraindicated for patients who have had life-threatening reactions after previous flu vaccines. Precautions should be taken in those with severe egg allergy. And I would exercise extreme caution in patients who have experienced Guillain-Barre syndrome after previous influenza vaccination or have a family member who has, and in patients who have a strong family history of other autoimmune or neurodegenerative illnesses.

The decision to get the vaccine depends on what risks you, as patients and parents, are willing to take. While influenza infection tends to produce mild illness in most, it certainly can cause more serious and even life-threatening complications, especially for those populations considered at risk. I have cared for children hospitalized in the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit from influenza complications. On the other hand, no vaccine is 100% risk-free. I have also cared for patients who have developed serious complications after the flu vaccine, including multiple sclerosis and Guillain-Barre.

Children who are most at risk for serious adverse vaccine reactions are those who have underlying “mitochondrial dysfunction”. These kids often have a personal history of delayed developmental milestones or family history of autoimmune illness, neuropsychiatric disorders like autism or ADHD, cancers, or other chronic illness. For these kids, vaccination is not necessarily out of the question. But serious adverse reactions can be mitigated by supporting mitochondria, methylation, and detoxification with supplements like coQ10, methyl-B12, glutathione, and homeopathic Thuja. I also don’t recommend getting shots when kids have even a hint of a cold or illness coming on – if we’re asking our child’s immune system to mount an appropriate and effective response to the flu vaccine, or any other vaccine for that matter, why have their immune systems occupied with anything else?

So here’s what we know:

  • For most people, the flu will be relatively mild and without complications.
  • The 2017-2018 flu vaccine does appear to be a good match for circulating influenza strains.
  • The flu vaccine may be slightly helpful in reducing the risk of actually getting the flu.
  • Certain populations are more at risk for serious complications from the flu.
  • Certain populations are more at risk for serious complications from the flu vaccine.

Bottom line

  • Whether you decide to get the flu vaccine for your child is YOUR CHOICE – and the risks of your child getting complications from the flu must be weighed against the risk of your child getting complications from the flu vaccine. Only YOU can decide what risks you are willing to take.
  • If you decide to give your child the flu vaccine, please make sure that they are in their best health.
  • If your child has any risk factors for serious adverse reactions to the flu vaccine, then consider supplementing with coQ10, methyl-B12, glutathione, and homeopathic Thuja.

There is NO right or wrong decision. By informing yourself, you are doing the best thing for your child and for your whole family. Trust your mama or your papa “gut”, and you will always do what is best for your child. Whatever you decide, using your natural medicines toolkit will get your whole family through the winter cold and flu season healthier and stronger, so be sure to read my blog post Top Ways to Boost Your Child’s Immune System.


I do hope that this has helped you in making this difficult decision for your child. Be sure you’re signed up for my Healthy Kids Happy Kids newsletter ( to get my next blog post where I teach you how to treat your child’s flu naturally – using homeopathy, herbs, essential oils and acupressure!

And please share this article with any mama or papa you know who wants to keep their children healthy through the cold and flu season naturally!

In health and happiness,
xo Holistic mama doc – Elisa Song, MD

  1. I am dismayed that you sit on the fence…After weighing the evidence, do you and your kids get a flu shot or, as it seems to be the best choice to me, use all the good tips you give to prevent transmission and strengthen your immune system? Furthermore, while you mention Guillain-Barre Syndrome, you need to add into the decision making process the cumulative negative neurotoxic effects of mercury and aluminum preservatives and adjuvants in vaccines.

    • Hi Rick – thanks for your feedback. It may seem that I’m sitting on the fence, but I don’t believe that there is a one-size-fits-all for anything. What I chose to do for my children with their unique health history and genetic makeup may be very different than what another parents chooses. I don’t know if there will ever be such a thing as true informed consent when it comes to vaccines, but in having Dr. Paul Thomas on the Thriving Child Summit and presenting data that goes against the conventional pediatric guidance, I hope to help parents feel comfortable whatever their decision is for their child, and in the process help them optimize their children’s health no matter what they do.

    • Dr. Song – I appreciate your holistic mama doc concern for individualized care and working with Dr. Paul Thomas in nearby Portland OR whose book The Vaccine Friendly Plan I recommend to my patients. I understand that some vaccinations are worthwhile, but don’t believe the flu shots are beneficial and worth the risk of side effects. As pointed out in the November 2017 Health Alert by Dr. Bruce West: (1) In the August 2017 New England Journal of Medicine it was reported that 50% of 6,879 people with acute colds and flu had received some form of the vlu vaccine at least 2 weeks prior to illness. That is, almost 3,500 became ill with flu or flu syndrome after receiving the flu vaccine at least 2 weeks prior to illness. (2) The respected Cochrane Collaboration’s analysis was that over the past 50 years all flu related vaccines have been 90% INeffective. Furthermore, in just three months in 2016 the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program and Vaccine Adverse Reporting System (VAERS) has given awards to people suffering from side effects from their flu shot: Acute Inflammatory Demyelinating Polyneuropathy, etc, even death.

  2. I really appreciated the striaghtforward information. I tend to lean towards the anti-van side but the way you laid out the information in this article encourgaes me to see that SOME Vaccines CAN benefit SOME people at SOME TIMES. I appreciated the fact that it wasn’t 100% leaning towards one direction, while still having conviction!

    • Thank you, Faith! In most cases, there is not a clearcut 100% right answer, so my goal is to educate parents so that they feel comfortable with whatever decision they make. 🙂

  3. Helpful article, thanks. Another recommendation that I give to my patients that have made the decision to have the flu shot is to have the individually packaged shot i.e. not drawn from the multi-dose 10 shot vials. These individually packaged syringes do not have mercury or aluminum preservatives in them. If people are going to have annual shots, then the accumulation of these neurotoxins might have an effect on their nervous systems, including, of course, the brain.
    Parents (and pregnant women) should also review the safety data for the flu shot in children, as annual two shot programs could create a cumulative risk and the data supporting the safety of even one shot in children is very limited.

    • Hi Stephen – great point! I don’t carry any mult-dose vials for that reason. And in California, young children and pregnant women legally can only receive a preservative-free flu vaccine…

  4. Thank you very much for this info. Strange how the influenza shot has not changed since 1992. They released a new one this year and a nasal one. Why ?

    • Hi Tracy – each year a new flu vaccine is made with the strains that are predicted to be the most prevalent the following year. So the flu shot for the 2017-2018 flu season was made during the 2016-2017 flu season. Some years the flu shot looks the same as the one prior, but that’s just by chance. And the nasal spray is no longer recommended as it was found to not be effective. I also never recommended the nasal spray as it was a live vaccine, meaning you were actually giving people a live but weakened flu virus. And I have patients who had very negative reactions with the Flumist, including autoimmune illness eventually diagnosed as Multiple Sclerosis that the University Rheumatologists confirmed was from the nasal flu spray.

  5. Can you tell me your opinion on a flu homeopathic? Effectiveness and comparison to the vaccine?

    • Hi Janelle – I have patients who have done homeopathic vaccines, and I have not seen and adverse reactions. But I just can’t say how effective they are. I don’t know that there are any studies looking at the effectiveness of homeopathic vaccines. I do know that in one patient who had the full set of childhood vaccinations homeopathically, when we checked bloodwork to see if he had protective antibody levels, he did not have any… Best of luck!

  6. We really appreciate your well-informed, factual, and sane advice on this topic. Thank you!

    • You’re so welcome! I try to present all the information that I would want to know as a mama!

    • So glad you find the information useful! 🙂

  7. Thank you Dr. Song! A very informative post that has helped me and my husband make decisions for our family. Stay well!

    • You’re so welcome! That was why I wrote the post! 🙂

  8. Thank you SO much for this information! Really helpful.

  9. Dr Song,
    you are a God send! as a health care professional myself, I am amazed at how thorough and extremely knowledgeable you are, and thank you so much for sharing ! I researched about vaccines and wish I knew all this years ago.
    I tried to have my son (ADD) see you two years ago but you are completely full. You are hand down the greatest doctor in the bay area- a life saver – you recovered one of my friends kid from lead poisoning!
    the part about “mitochondria dysfunction “ is very enlightening! I started supplementing my son on my own- ubiquninol really helped him with attention and energy. I didn’t do glutathione because from what i read for kids with leaky gut it can cause bad bacteria to grow.

    • Hi Janet! I’m so glad you find the information useful! Yes, sadly, my practice has been closed but my partner, Dr. Tracy Trolan and I work closely on all patients. Hopefully you find the help you need for your soon! Best of luck!

  10. Tell me a bit more about autoimmune diseases and the flu shot. I have Hasimoto’s as does my mother but I’m on the fence on if I should get it or my children. Where can I find out more about this?

    • Hi Amy – if you do a “pubmed” search for “flu vaccine and autoimmune disease”, “flu vaccine and guillain-barre syndrome” or “ASIA autoimmune syndrome induced by adjuvants” you should find a lot of research. Best of luck!

  11. Thank you for giving objective and actual information. So hard to find a balanced and objective view these days.

  12. I submitted a review of your site Dr. Song and I think it got lost between my grading research papers and watching your Facebook Live and copying down remedies. Shucks!

    Although that was a great review I wrote then, I will add here now that your site (and you/your videos) are so empowering and helpful. I feel better just visiting your blog and then a report comes out with the following interview…

    They scoff at “homemade remedies” and really play down approaches to immune health that is proactive and not reactive. How do we help our children BEFORE getting to the vaccine or ER – well you listen to and read informed folks like Dr. Song. This is just so disheartening because I know a lot of folks who will discount homeopathic simply on the basis of what this one (of many) conventional doctor suggests on a popular television show. What’s even more curious is that if this doctor is advocating the flu shot as the best effort to not getting the flu, then why was she so afraid when her daughter caught the flu? Come on!

    ps: waiting for your book to be published!

    • Hi Dr. B.! You’re so kind! My goal is to bring more “evidence” and confidence to parents who want to incorporate natural remedies and truly optimize their kids’ health. And a book – yes! That’s in the works! So many topics I have in mind to write about, and I’m actually working on several different book ideas at the same time. But if you have a burning desire for a particular topic(s), let me know! 🙂 Elisa

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